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		<title>Comment on A Del.icio.us Potpourri for April 23rd, 2008 through May 9th, 2008 by Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/2008/05/09/a-delicious-potpourri-for-april-23rd-2008-through-may-9th-2008/#comment-7623</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions!

I agree that no particular statistic is overwhelming, but the weight of evidence certainly seems to call some of the "received wisdom" about crime control into question. However, the lack of statistical analysis in the piece makes it impossible to really answer your challenge, since we have no idea  Just how significant these results are. 

I posted this because I think we need some new thinking about crime, since our current approaches are so obviously broken. This is just one piece in the puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions!</p>
<p>I agree that no particular statistic is overwhelming, but the weight of evidence certainly seems to call some of the &#8220;received wisdom&#8221; about crime control into question. However, the lack of statistical analysis in the piece makes it impossible to really answer your challenge, since we have no idea  Just how significant these results are. </p>
<p>I posted this because I think we need some new thinking about crime, since our current approaches are so obviously broken. This is just one piece in the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Del.icio.us Potpourri for April 23rd, 2008 through May 9th, 2008 by Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/2008/05/09/a-delicious-potpourri-for-april-23rd-2008-through-may-9th-2008/#comment-7594</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Broken Window.  Am I reading the charts wrong, but SF's data doesn't appear to be so conclusively superior.  Plus, are the other three California cities "broken windows theory" cities?  Given how underpoliced (on a per capita basis) Los Angeles is, is LA a bwt city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Broken Window.  Am I reading the charts wrong, but SF&#8217;s data doesn&#8217;t appear to be so conclusively superior.  Plus, are the other three California cities &#8220;broken windows theory&#8221; cities?  Given how underpoliced (on a per capita basis) Los Angeles is, is LA a bwt city?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Goodbye, Ranae by Christopher Weuve</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/2008/04/16/goodbye-ranae/#comment-7403</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Weuve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm very, very sorry to hear about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very, very sorry to hear about this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on January 17, 1994, 4:30:55 am34° 12.80&#8242; N, 118° 32.22&#8242; W by Dave Trowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Trowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ron. I'm amazed that you remembered the line from hearing the poem once so long ago.

I've not written any poetry near as good since, but, considering the inspiration for this poem, perhaps we should hope I'm not  so moved ever again. (Pun intended!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ron. I&#8217;m amazed that you remembered the line from hearing the poem once so long ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not written any poetry near as good since, but, considering the inspiration for this poem, perhaps we should hope I&#8217;m not  so moved ever again. (Pun intended!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on January 17, 1994, 4:30:55 am34° 12.80&#8242; N, 118° 32.22&#8242; W by Ron Garret</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/2008/01/17/january-17-1994-43055-am/#comment-7292</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Garret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure what made this pop into my head, but I had the privilege of hearing you read this poem shortly after you wrote it.  I thought it then, and think it still, to be one of the finest (and most under-appreciated) ever written.  The lines "It is not deafness which forbids that stellar music to our ears -- But that we are too small, and live too fast" have stuck in my head for almost fifteen years.  (In fact, I found this blog entry by doing a Google search for those lines, a feat which, interestingly, would not have been possible when I first heard them.)  So having found this very fond memory from my past I thought it a shame that they were bare of comment.  So: bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what made this pop into my head, but I had the privilege of hearing you read this poem shortly after you wrote it.  I thought it then, and think it still, to be one of the finest (and most under-appreciated) ever written.  The lines &#8220;It is not deafness which forbids that stellar music to our ears &#8212; But that we are too small, and live too fast&#8221; have stuck in my head for almost fifteen years.  (In fact, I found this blog entry by doing a Google search for those lines, a feat which, interestingly, would not have been possible when I first heard them.)  So having found this very fond memory from my past I thought it a shame that they were bare of comment.  So: bravo!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/about/#comment-6649</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, thank you. Since my convincement as a Quaker I've not been writing much because I wasn't sure what I wanted to say. But I feel the pressure building, and perhaps I'll be able to give you more of what you want shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, thank you. Since my convincement as a Quaker I&#8217;ve not been writing much because I wasn&#8217;t sure what I wanted to say. But I feel the pressure building, and perhaps I&#8217;ll be able to give you more of what you want shortly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Ed Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't checked in on davetrowbridge.com since Redwood Dragon days.  I have really missed the thoughtful, reasoned commentary and the inspiration that comes from the flow of these ideas.  Lately its been more like your posting about the folks wearing the "Impeach Bush and Cheney" tee shirts being kicked out in the sight of the First Amendment.  The level of intolerance for opinions of the opposite view has been rather scary.  Thanks for continuing to put yourself out there.
yhs,
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t checked in on davetrowbridge.com since Redwood Dragon days.  I have really missed the thoughtful, reasoned commentary and the inspiration that comes from the flow of these ideas.  Lately its been more like your posting about the folks wearing the &#8220;Impeach Bush and Cheney&#8221; tee shirts being kicked out in the sight of the First Amendment.  The level of intolerance for opinions of the opposite view has been rather scary.  Thanks for continuing to put yourself out there.<br />
yhs,<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>Comment on State Addiction by Dave Trowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Trowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pulp--

1) I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don't believe, and have never stated, that "all states behave in exactly the same murderous fashion at all times, and that differences among states are therefore non-existent or insignificant." It's obvious that's not true. But all states share the same violent DNA, and all evolve towards oppression, albeit at varying paces. 

2) As a Christian anarchist, I'm less interested in abolishing the state than in calling people to live in the reign of God, the only "arky," as Vernard Eller terms it, with any real validity. Like the poor, we will likely always have the state with us. But to whatever extent possible, I think people should strive to live in a true community, rather than in the false community offered by the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulp&#8211;</p>
<p>1) I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don&#8217;t believe, and have never stated, that &#8220;all states behave in exactly the same murderous fashion at all times, and that differences among states are therefore non-existent or insignificant.&#8221; It&#8217;s obvious that&#8217;s not true. But all states share the same violent DNA, and all evolve towards oppression, albeit at varying paces. </p>
<p>2) As a Christian anarchist, I&#8217;m less interested in abolishing the state than in calling people to live in the reign of God, the only &#8220;arky,&#8221; as Vernard Eller terms it, with any real validity. Like the poor, we will likely always have the state with us. But to whatever extent possible, I think people should strive to live in a true community, rather than in the false community offered by the state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on State Addiction by Pulp Avenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pulp Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't wish to be obnoxious, but libertarian and anarchist blogs such as yours leave me with two basic conclusions.

(1) Anarcho-libertarian writers seem to be saying that all states behave in exactly the same murderous fashion at all times, and that differences among states are therefore non-existent or insignificant. This, it seems to me, is empirically and logically false. The Roman Empire of 70 CE did not behave in the same fashion as Costa Rica of 2008. Surely different states behave in different ways at various times, and these differences are important to the lives of ordinary people. I work in healthcare, and it makes an enormous difference in the lives of people I work with that the nation-state in which I live, the United States, has chosen not to implement the kind of government-run universal healthcare system adopted, to the benefit of working people, by most other developed countries. For anarchists to imply that this difference in state behavior is insignificant might be offensive to the millions of human beings who have been harmed by the health care policy of the American nation-state. 

(2) Identifying the state as a uniquely evil human institution implies that it can or should be abolished. An abundance of evidence suggests that this is impossible to accomplish in a large human society. Ever since human beings began to build cities roughly 5,000 years ago, every large human population has created governments to organize its societal affairs. There is not a single recorded instance in the last 5,000 years of a large human population that existed without a government. Only small hunter-gatherer bands have done so. If anarchists are advocating a return to primitive hunter-gatherer lifestyles, they should say so. If, on the other hand, their only goal is to forever criticize The State without feeling the need to propose a viable alternative, then they should ask themselves how ethical it is to sit back and snark from the sidelines while the rest of the human race tries to save as many people as possible from global disasters like peaking energy supplies and biosphere collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t wish to be obnoxious, but libertarian and anarchist blogs such as yours leave me with two basic conclusions.</p>
<p>(1) Anarcho-libertarian writers seem to be saying that all states behave in exactly the same murderous fashion at all times, and that differences among states are therefore non-existent or insignificant. This, it seems to me, is empirically and logically false. The Roman Empire of 70 CE did not behave in the same fashion as Costa Rica of 2008. Surely different states behave in different ways at various times, and these differences are important to the lives of ordinary people. I work in healthcare, and it makes an enormous difference in the lives of people I work with that the nation-state in which I live, the United States, has chosen not to implement the kind of government-run universal healthcare system adopted, to the benefit of working people, by most other developed countries. For anarchists to imply that this difference in state behavior is insignificant might be offensive to the millions of human beings who have been harmed by the health care policy of the American nation-state. </p>
<p>(2) Identifying the state as a uniquely evil human institution implies that it can or should be abolished. An abundance of evidence suggests that this is impossible to accomplish in a large human society. Ever since human beings began to build cities roughly 5,000 years ago, every large human population has created governments to organize its societal affairs. There is not a single recorded instance in the last 5,000 years of a large human population that existed without a government. Only small hunter-gatherer bands have done so. If anarchists are advocating a return to primitive hunter-gatherer lifestyles, they should say so. If, on the other hand, their only goal is to forever criticize The State without feeling the need to propose a viable alternative, then they should ask themselves how ethical it is to sit back and snark from the sidelines while the rest of the human race tries to save as many people as possible from global disasters like peaking energy supplies and biosphere collapse.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Merry Christmas! by M. Douglas Wray</title>
		<link>http://www.davetrowbridge.com/blog/2007/12/24/merry-christmas/#comment-6199</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Douglas Wray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT dog story. Thanks Dave - just the thing for this weary heart on a cold Christmas morning! MERRY CHRISTMAS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT dog story. Thanks Dave - just the thing for this weary heart on a cold Christmas morning! MERRY CHRISTMAS!</p>
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